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Post by kelvinn on Oct 8, 2007 10:04:31 GMT -5
It's well known on here that I hate union and everything about it but could you SH types please explain to me how come the Australian national side is so poor in the forwards? They couldn't even scrummage and lost to a pathetic England side, mores the pity!
I also noticed the fat git playing at prop, surely a great sporting nation can do better than him, don't know his name but he had a mullet!
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Post by Basil2 on Oct 9, 2007 20:35:11 GMT -5
It's well known on here that I hate union and everything about it Now there's a surprise. Good to see you are persisting in keeping the ru section of the board alive as usual kel! by wasting large sums of money on rl outside backs rather than spending it on developing forwards. Seriously though Aus ru has the smallest player base of the major ru powers so a crisis like this develops every now & then. In the late 60s early 70s the NZ ru had to bale out the Aus ru. RU here needs a major overhaul, which the more optimistic might suggest is underway - the Aus Rugby Championship & adoption of the Stellenbosch rules MAY be evidence of it. The coaching set up is a revelation too - coaches employed include defensive, forwards, backs, kicking etc etc. The idea of having one or two coaches is apparently beyond the pale. The result, a pampered overcoached mob who were dispatched to the ruwc underprepared in my book. Selection mistakes didn't help either. Giteau should have been the 1/2, not Gregan. [quoteThey couldn't even scrummage and lost to a pathetic England side, mores the pity! [/quote] They haven't been able to scrummage successfully since 2003. As for England they were almost as bad. No backs, no idea. The result was a dreadful game! My brother & I sat up drinking & watched the whole thing. All we got was a collective sore head. Hope the neighbours weren't upset by the profanities!! |
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Post by kelvinn on Oct 10, 2007 6:46:54 GMT -5
It's well known on here that I hate union and everything about it Now there's a surprise. Good to see you are persisting in keeping the ru section of the board alive as usual kel! by wasting large sums of money on rl outside backs rather than spending it on developing forwards. Seriously though Aus ru has the smallest player base of the major ru powers so a crisis like this develops every now & then. In the late 60s early 70s the NZ ru had to bale out the Aus ru. RU here needs a major overhaul, which the more optimistic might suggest is underway - the Aus Rugby Championship & adoption of the Stellenbosch rules MAY be evidence of it. The coaching set up is a revelation too - coaches employed include defensive, forwards, backs, kicking etc etc. The idea of having one or two coaches is apparently beyond the pale. The result, a pampered overcoached mob who were dispatched to the ruwc underprepared in my book. Selection mistakes didn't help either. Giteau should have been the 1/2, not Gregan. [quoteThey couldn't even scrummage and lost to a pathetic England side, mores the pity! They haven't been able to scrummage successfully since 2003. As for England they were almost as bad. No backs, no idea. The result was a dreadful game! My brother & I sat up drinking & watched the whole thing. All we got was a collective sore head. Hope the neighbours weren't upset by the profanities!![/quote]I share your pain brother! I watched nearly the whole game, I wanted to see if my view of union was outdated and misplaced. After watching that shower of crap (both sides) I now know I was right all the time!  |
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Post by Basil2 on Oct 11, 2007 14:43:53 GMT -5
Aha, a secret ru watcher! I knew!
It may well be if they adopt the new international laws. I think they are discovering after professionalism the same problems rl discovered after the split. The game needs a revamp to prevent "spectacles" like the wallabies England shocker.
Barrett's obviously done reasonable well with Wigan. Reports here have surfaced he's unhappy & wants to come back to Aus. Heard anything at your end?
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Post by kelvinn on Oct 12, 2007 9:40:45 GMT -5
Aha, a secret ru watcher! I knew! It may well be if they adopt the new international laws. I think they are discovering after professionalism the same problems rl discovered after the split. The game needs a revamp to prevent "spectacles" like the wallabies England shocker. Barrett's obviously done reasonable well with Wigan. Reports here have surfaced he's unhappy & wants to come back to Aus. Heard anything at your end? Apparently he said such reports are rubbish and he's very happy and settled here. I expect you to say he would say that! He's well paid, loved by the Wigan supporters and part of a team that is heading in the right direction, I see no reason for him to leave! |
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Post by kelvinn on Oct 15, 2007 11:36:48 GMT -5
Aha, a secret ru watcher! I knew! It may well be if they adopt the new international laws. I think they are discovering after professionalism the same problems rl discovered after the split. The game needs a revamp to prevent "spectacles" like the wallabies England shocker. Barrett's obviously done reasonable well with Wigan. Reports here have surfaced he's unhappy & wants to come back to Aus. Heard anything at your end? Some comments from Barrett Baz..... Warriors ace Trent Barrett has told Warriors fans: "Wigan will be a real Super League force in 2008." Barrett, the driving force behind the club's Grand Final bid, said: "We have showed this year what we are capable of and now it is up to us to continue that improvement. "In the end, we just ran out of steam against Leeds in the semi-final. "And we are losing some experience in the squad for next season. "So it is up to lads like Paul Prescott, Eamon O'Carroll, Darrell Goulding and Harrison Hansen to take their chance. But I think this team can make a big impression next season." The former Australian Test star was voted the players' player of the year in a poll of Super League squads, and is sure to play a key role again for Warriors next term. He added: "Losing to Catalans in the semi-final of the Challenge Cup was a huge disappointment, but we dug deep after that to reach the play-offs. "We finished the season well and it was a huge effort to reach the last three. "Nobody had given us a chance of making the play-offs a couple of months ago, but the players hung in and made a real go of it. "The important thing now is we have built a strong foundation stone, and we can build on the progress we've made this year. "It was a pretty eventful year for me, on and off the field. But I think it will be easier to settle back in again next season. "I have really enjoyed the year, though, and when I came to Wigan I don't think I appreciated the intense rivalry between Wigan and St Helens. "I certainly do now, though. "We managed to beat them in the last game of the regular season, and I know that meant a lot to our supporters." The stand-off added: "Our fans are unbelievable, and I can promise them another mighty effort next season. "We tried our best to give them something special to cheer about. "And I'm very excited about our potential, and what we could achieve over the next couple of years." Barrett tore a hamstring at Headingley and said "I will have a bit of rehabilitation to do in the next few weeks. "Then I'll go back to Australia for a few weeks to see my family before we start back in training." Last Updated: 15 October 2007 8:49 AM |
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Post by bizzaro on Oct 16, 2007 7:34:03 GMT -5
It may well be if they adopt the new international laws. I think they are discovering after professionalism the same problems rl discovered after the split. The game needs a revamp to prevent "spectacles" like the wallabies England shocker. Have these new laws been tried by any of the Northern Hemisphere unions? |
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Post by kelvinn on Oct 16, 2007 11:26:05 GMT -5
It may well be if they adopt the new international laws. I think they are discovering after professionalism the same problems rl discovered after the split. The game needs a revamp to prevent "spectacles" like the wallabies England shocker. Have these new laws been tried by any of the Northern Hemisphere unions? Not as far as I know but I am the wrong person to ask really! |
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Post by kier on Oct 16, 2007 12:47:08 GMT -5
Scotland has played their top level domestic comp under the new rules.
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Post by georgehotel on Oct 16, 2007 16:45:45 GMT -5
However, it won't be seen by anybody!!
Average attendance in that division is about 450 - see sportinglife.com
Australai were dreadful and England not much better. England have a very limited gameplan and nobody has worked it out yet, vs France get the try in early (Lewsey was offside BTW), then concentrate on scrums and penalties!
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Post by Gibbo on Oct 17, 2007 17:08:57 GMT -5
I can't believe that two of the top teams in world RU weren't able to stop a team with such a one dimensional game plan.
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Post by Basil2 on Nov 8, 2007 5:48:11 GMT -5
I can't believe that two of the top teams in world RU weren't able to stop a team with such a one dimensional game plan. The problem lies in the rules of the game. Dominate possession at the breakdown - that gives you territory. Then go for penalties or drop goals. The game has become one dimensional & England picked a team to suit. The South Africans beat them because they matched the English forwards & had enough in the backs to ensure they got on top. England did world ru a favour with their one dimensional play. The new rules will be in within a year or two. England will need to discover backs - look out ru. |
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Post by Basil2 on Nov 8, 2007 5:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by kelvinn on Nov 8, 2007 12:54:07 GMT -5
Until the drop the flankers and abandon line outs, rucks, mauls and a million petty rules, we have nothing to fear! |
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